PFT: 7 teams had Irvin rated as top-15 talent

[Shadowhawk]

Again, we'll never know for sure so take this for what it's worth, but there are enough sources saying things like this that I believe it.

Per a league source, at least seven teams had Irvin rated as one of the top 15 players available in the draft.

It’s no coincidence that we had Irvin in round one of the PFT and PFT Live mock drafts.

The knock on Irvin was that he lacks the size to contribute against the run. But he has shown an uncanny ability to get to passer during two years at West Virginia.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/26/at-least-seve-teams-had-bruce-irvin-in-top-15/

[SeahawkSal]

I hope he pans out...I really do. Just dont like his size and the fact that he is a one-trick-pony.

[sinehawk]

NFL contract = eat good and have access to professional trainers and facilities.

I want to call this guy a "monster" in a few years, even if it's only 3rd and long or nickel/passing situations. Everyone's been complaining about how Holmgren's lollypop squad was soft-serve and people trip the second we get someone who can go off on the field. I'm sure PCJS drafted this dude not to be sitting as depth, reading to school children but to surprise offensive linemen in their dreams and destroy them.

[420hawk]

I wish we could have at least drafted someone who could read...

[vdubhawk]

I wish we could have at least drafted someone who could read...

If we were talking about a QB, sure, but for a beast that we are wanting to unleash on opposing QB's, I don't care much about how intelligent he is.

[420hawk]

youll care when he gets pissed that he blew all his signing bonus on bling and jordans and uses his retard strength to destroy some poor turkish immigrants kebob shop in an uncontrolable rage which leaves him with yet another jail stint and loses us our first round pick for the year with a conduct suspention....

yes I am psychic...

[vdubhawk]

This is one thing I hate about the Internet. I can't tell if you are going for humor, being overly judgmental, or some combination of the two.

[420hawk]

a combination of the two, I was joking about the kebab shop, but definatly think this guys issues are more then just "something in his past" hell I've had my own issues so I'm like the least judgemental as far as youthfull indiscretions....

but look at this guy....
only played a couple highschool football games,
couldn't maintain a 1.85 (or whatever it is to play) GPA to maintain athletic elegebility,
flunked/dropped out of HS,
ran away from home/lived in a crack house,
arrested twice for robbing people,
couldnt handle junior college bounced around 3/4,
finally able to get into a real college had two good seasons as a pure pass rusher
arrested this march for trashing a sub shop....

this guy just screams "immature moron" I shudder at the thought of idiots like this with millions of dollars....

we probly coulda got him in the third round because most teams realise people like this are bad in the locker room and most likely to be a complete waste ie-Ryan Leaf.

I will gladly eat a double helping of crow if I'm wrong, but this draft looks like a comedy of errors....

[Shadowhawk]

arrested this march for trashing a sub shop....

No, he got arrested for knocking the magnetic sign off of a Pita Pit delivery truck, and the charges were dismissed on Tuesday. A far cry from "trashing a sub shop."

And yeah, he had a lousy childhood and made a lot of bad decisions. But he took his punishment, worked to get his GED to go to college and then West Virginia, and has never been suspended, failed a drug test, or done anything more serious than that delivery truck incident ever since.

[420hawk]

Had a three year gap in his douchebaggery, not impressed....

[Shadowhawk]

Had a three year gap in his douchebaggery, not impressed....

That's one way of looking at it. The other is that he got drunk and did one mildly stupid thing after three years of busting his ass to put his life back together.

[SeahawkSal]

When I go to the bakery to get my pastry and espresso I could give a shit if the guy ringing me up robbed a 7-11 two years ago. Its not like he is marrying my sister.

If the guy stays on the straight and narrow great. If he doesnt, this will fall directly on our front office. Its a risk they were obviously willing to take.

[420hawk]

It's a risk we could have taken in the third, no one else was gonna take him, people can say "top 15 talent" till the cows come home. we wasted a pick on someone who wasn't worth it, end of story, this guys got a 6/10 chance of being a complete trainwreck, thats why everyone was supprised, not that he got drafted but that he got drafted by us when there was a big chance he'd be their in the next round because most general managers dont want to put their careers on the line using a first rounder on someone like this.

[Nighthawk]

Then were 7 teams as stupid as Pete Carroll.

[vdubhawk]

There is absolutely a risk, but I do think that he'd have been gone by the time our next pick rolled around. This front office deserves the benefit of the doubt when picking defensive players, and if they think THIS is the guy, it's the move they had to make.

[420hawk]

does this guy really offer that much more than the other top DE's of this draft class (he was first DE taken) that would warrant the risk? I mean really... no one had him as the top DE, even on the field and with all the off field shit is the reach really that necessary? it's a stretch at best... I would have been happy with almost any other DE, not this schmuk though. I'd be more than happy to be proven wrong, but this guy might as well have "trouble" tatt'd on his forehead.

[Godshawks]

Shoulda, coulda, woulda ... life is filled with them and I'm trying to think how the other picks that PC and JS have made and how they've panned out ..... while our record hasn't been lights out, we are moving in the right direction so I'd tend to think that they have an idea of what they are looking for and things are shaping up quite nicely.

They were looking for the edge rusher and that's exactly what they drafted; the purest edge rusher in the draft. We've got the guys who clog up the middle so we needed that guy who can mirror Clemons on the other side to contain and press. I'll reserve judgement on the good or bad after he suits up and plays a few games.

"This is the kind of guy that puts fear in offensive tackles," coach Pete Carroll said of Irvin, who had 14 sacks as a junior at West Virginia and another 8.5 sacks in his final season.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8 ... p-of-faith

[soulfishhawk]

Aaaah, here comes Nighthawk with his whining and moaning. It's like clockwork.

Get over it, and become a Niner fan. I can't believe you consider yourself a Hawk fan

[Bubba]

this is a tough kid who gives 100% on the field.He has insane raw ability and was never coached up. Unlike most prospects this kid earned everything he got. He works really hard. You don't go get your GED,walk on to a junior college and turn it into a scholarship at West Virginia then get drafted in the 1st rd without work ethic. Risk yes but the reward is to great not to try with the new rookie wage scale.

[soulfishhawk]

It's real easy to judge someone and assume the worst. Here's to hoping the ppl w/the negative take are wrong. Not sure what it proves to just assume the worst. To each is own I guess.

[seahawkjohnny]

I was hoping the Hawks would draft him, just earlier than I expected. The only people saying he was a 2nd/3rd round pick was the draft mockers and the so called experts on ESPN and NFL network.

Irvin is a physical freak, when a DE can run a sub 4.5 forty you are willing to take chances

Coming out of college Irvin is a 1 trick pony, but in Carrolls defense that is all the Hawks are looking for...Get after the QB!, The Giants were criticized for making JPP a high draft pick but for different reasons and he turned out pretty damn good.

If Irvin had not had the personal issues the Hawks would not have been in a position to draft him

[soulfishhawk]

The same experts who said Aaron Curry was a "sure thing", and that Jamarcus Russell would be a multi-pro bowler

[gaterhawk]

Yeah, I try not to put too much stock in the 'Draftniks' evaluations, If they really knew their ass from a hole in the ground they would be working in player personnel for an NFL team. That being said, it's hard not to get swayed when the same crap gets pumped into your head over and over during the months of no real football news.

As far as Irvin's past goes, I am on his side 100%. I can relate to some, not all of, his path and the struggles one has to face after making some stupid decisions in youth. No matter what the guy does, that shit is going to follow him around for a long time. If he screws up ten years down the road some Deuchebag will be there ready to say "see, I told you so". What the fuck ever!
To that I say people should, "get a life, live it themselves, and keep their nose out of other people's"!

I made many mistakes, I ran with the wrong crowd,I spent much time in the pokie for violent behavior, I lived with dependence and a chronic case of the 'who gives a shits' for years.
Now I am sober, I am out of the system, I am almost to my double B.S. in environmental studies and renewable resources engineering, My lady and I had the grand opening of our new dance studio yesterday, and I have two beautiful little girls that adore me. None of that would have been possible without second chances, hell third's in some cases!

So to Bruce Irvin, I say good on you my man, you are truly blessed and I wish the greatest of things for you. Now take this opportunity and run with it, preferably right to the grill of our opposing Quarterbacks. Yee hah

Rant over, that is all.